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30/11/2007 5:32:58 PMas long as its gold, you cannot wear it, but if you wish, do so, as its equivalent punishment is a ring of fire in naar.
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Signet-Rings (Kitab Al-Khatam)
Dawud :: Book 34 : Hadith 4224
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone wants to put a ring of fire on one he loves, let him put a gold ring on him: if anyone wants to put a necklace of fire on one he loves, let him put a gold necklace on him, and if anyone wants to put a bracelet of fire on one he loves let him put a gold bracelet on him. Keep to silver and amuse yourselves with it.
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30/11/2007 9:46:25 PMYour husband cannot wear any kinda gold. White or Yellow. It doesn't matter if he takes it out during prayer. He cannot wear gold at all. He can wear platinium or silver.
Sheikh M. S. Al-Munajjid, a prominent Saudi Muslim lecturer and author, states:
"There is nothing wrong, as far as Islam is concerned, as regards men wearing platinum rings as long as the following two conditions are met:
1- That it is not an extravagance on the part of one who cannot afford to wear this kind of jewelry.
2- That it should not be worn in order to cause temptation.
It is noteworthy that men are prohibited to wear gold rings.”
Here are links for you to read on that Islamic ruling:
http://www.islamonline.net/ser...
http://www.islamonline.net/ser...
http://www.islamicity.com/dial...
http://www.muis.gov.sg/eservic...
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30/11/2007 9:51:29 PMOh , also..if you really really want a ring for your man and there isn't good design, go to a jewelry shop and get it custom made in platinum.
There are heaps of smaller boutique shops that does custom made jewelry.
Also you might get jewelry design students to do you a ring.
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2/12/2007 2:22:08 AMHmm as MDSG and sultana has emphasized, wearing gold or anything that is subjected to ornament /display of excessive wealth/jewelry is not seen positively in the Quran such in 9:34, 3:75, 3:14. This is because it arouses comparision and promotes the measuring of a person's value to his own wealth, which promotes negative perception in faith and righteous believe. Due to this serious emphasize from the Quranic verses from God, the sunnah(law) has disallowed/discourage matter/use of gold and its equivalent wealthy ornaments/jewelery on muslims, be it personally or in events/celebrations.
As usual I do not want to quote from hadis unless asked, it can be quite sensitive for some muslims :) . So if you feel there is a distraction regarding gold, probably choose a lower value than gold, probably a silver if you or the people around is comfortable and not attracting. Emphasize as what is stated by the Quran, by making sure you don't imbude/display excessive wealthy value around people till it can arouse their minds that you are rich and showing off, that's the whole point.
So choose a object value that is moderately acceptable and not eye-catching or distracting between to anyone, muslim or even yourself regarding wedding bands or ornaments. Simply be simple and normal person in your daily life. Hope this helps...
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2/12/2007 9:10:52 PMThanks all.. you guys get me thinking... No Gold at all then, Yellow or White. Just a simple silver band ;)
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2/12/2007 10:56:15 PMYeah..han, that's the good thinking :) .Wasn't so hard actually, just don't be too exaggerating in regards to the Islamic law. Islamic school of thought and law is a guideline and criterion to help muslims be examplary and proper muslims in among themselves, and not taking away their rights to think and decide for themselves ... :)
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3/12/2007 10:49:46 AMFariz, your statement may confuse people who do not have a firm grasp of the religion.
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Islamic school of thought and law is a guideline and criterion to help muslims be examplary and proper muslims in among themselves, and not taking away their rights to think and decide for themselves
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We have seen how people have been mislead by using their "rights to think".
Lets take a local example, the man who had 10 wives, and in the end, committed incest. He misused an ayat from the Quran.
Can you tell me in the Quran, where exactly did it say how we should perform abulations/wudhu?
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4/12/2007 11:18:28 PMThere is no misleading actually, my emphasis is firstly on Islamic school of thought, and I did say "..to help muslims be examplary and proper muslims in among themselves". The 'rights to think", is to inform muslims that there are more than 1 school of thought in Islam, e.g. Shafiee, Wahabi, Mailiki, Hanafi etc... This excludes the Shia's and Sufis. It's up to muslims, on which school of thought they would be comfartable to follow. I'm being fair to every muslim who read this website. Promote understanding, not misconception or discrimination to other mazhab.
The part on ten wives in not a small topic to overlook in Islamic law MDSG. Read the Quran on chpt 4:3, and you notice marrying of women in two, three and fours ( translation would put as "..twos or threes or fours..."). It' a fav topic for muslim and non-muslims to discuss, you can search forums where people of different mazhabs or faiths discuss about it.
As for ablutions/wudhu, have you read the jurispundence of islamic law before? The Quran say OBVIOUSLY,
"O ye who believe! when ye prepare for prayer, wash your faces, and your hands (and arms) to the elbows; Rub your heads (with water); and (wash) your feet to the ankles. If ye are in a state of ceremonial impurity, bathe your whole body. But if ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands, Allah doth not wish to place you in a difficulty, but to make you clean, and to complete his favour to you, that ye may be grateful."
[Al-Qur'an, 5.6 (Al-Maeda [The Table, The Table Spread])]
Other verses in Quran like 4:43, emphasize on dry ablution. I think there are more, but the above two is the most common. The hadith collection is meant to supplement and support the Quranic verses. For some other related hadith traditions related to a topic but not stated in Quran, the muslims scholars will discuss whether it is sunnah or allowable in Islam. I'm not a scholar so please don't ask me how :)
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6/12/2007 3:02:33 PMwash once, twice or 3 times?
run wet fingers thru the hair from the forehead to the nape of the neck and neck or just the tips of the forelocks?
can i use the same water to wash the ears with the one used for the head?
whats the doa to recite after wudhu?
is there a prayer/solat to be done after wudhu?
if everything was fit into the Quran, can anyone complete reading it?
Was that why there is the sunnah of the Prophet shallalalhu alaihi wa salaam so as to explain the Quran in depth?
Sorry, but from reading your few posts, I find that you take sunnah lightly, and wants to based everything on the Quran. If I am mistaken, then I am sorry, its my wrong interpetration of your posts.
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For an analogy, when I was taking my O level back in 87, my science teacher was close to retiring. The shocking thing on the first day of class was to tell us to leave our textbooks at home. He only carried the syallabus book, which is so small as compared to the textbook.
For homework, he just gave us photocopies of questions to answer. nothing from the textbook. Its safe to say he have completely mastered the textbooks, and only need to refer to the syallabus on which topics to teach us. In case you are wondering, being taught by a very experienced teacher, results was good.
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7/12/2007 7:36:02 PMModerator Comment
Participants, this question is about Wedding rings...
please take the debate / unrelated discussion to another question or take it offline.
You can email each other personally if you need to.
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13/05/2008 7:44:36 PMHi,
was unaware that muslims cannot touch gold!
how true is this? can anyone aid me in understanding the depth of the fact that gold is unacceptable? i'm confused. i see a lot of malays adorning gold these days, even costume jewellery for wedding accessories too come in gold.
looked for rings and settled on white gold.
HTB likes gold though.
perhaps i'd be able to gain more insight when i'm at my convert classes. but if anyone can reply back:
gold or no?
thanks.
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Wedding bands.. If a muslim man cant wear gold, even white gold. What other alternatives are there? I do not quite fancy platinium as its a hard metal and is not as flexible as gold and the designs platinium have are very limited. However, in case if we are still getting white gold, the only time he is not suppose to wear it is during solat only right?
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